Sunday, February 20, 2005

Untied Future?

NoRightTurn has an interesting post on the Future of United Future. It now seems a rite of passage for a junior coalition partner to implode in the final year of its term. Much like Jim Anderton, Peter Dunne is assured of returning after the next election but how many MPs return with him is highly questionable.
If a Christian/Pagan split does occur in United Future, as NRT suggests it would likely leave Dunne a with 'sensible, mainstream, centre party'. The problem being the potential constituency and electoral success of a 'sensible and mainstream' centrist 3rd party is the same as that of the 'Progressive Coalition' ( aka 'Jim Anderton+1') .
What looks to be interesting is where the fundamentalist 'Christian' members of the party end up, would they join Christian Heritage? Would they ressurrect Future NZ? or would they join Destiny?

Destiny seem to be the ideal vehicle for United's fundamentalists to continue their crusade of imposing their beliefs onto others.
If not for political success at least for the amusing policy discussions a potential Destiny-United coalition would have
Paul Adams: I think we should hang sodomites.
Bishop Brian: No! Stoning is the way of the lord! It is written in the scripture!
Richard Lewis: Perhaps we could stone them then hang them?
Bishop Brian: No, that's the punishment for abortionists.
Whether Destiny are a snug fit for Paul Adams et al remains to be seen, Destiny's policies certainly seem compatible, however the affilation to Destiny the Church could prove unpalatable even for a guy that goes on a hunger-strike over civil unions.

Despite flying under (or above?) the mainstream media radar, Destiny have been steadily growing their support and now have many more supporters and potential voters than most people realise, and although this support has yet to be proven in any significant number in an opinion poll.
In the end the major hurdle for Destiny will be the same one that smited the Christian Coalition in 1996 - the 5% threshold. I'm philosphically opposed to the 5% threshold as it is undemocratic, though in this case I'm glad to make an exception as it's the only thing preventing Destiny having their mouthpieces participate in our next parliament.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

While they look the same to us, there are serious theological differences between Destiny and most of UF's Christians, which mean that they're unlikely to get together any time soon.  

Posted by Idiot/Savant

Anonymous said...

Is the gun lobby, and major supporter of united future, an indicator of a sensible and mainstream party? 

Posted by waterman

Anonymous said...

what do you mean by "Despite flying under (or above?) the mainstream media radar, Destiny have been steadily growing their support and now have many more supporters and potential voters than most people realise, and although this support has yet to be proven in any significant number in an opinion poll." ?
How do you know this?
I saw them at 0.1 % last Colmar Brunton 

Posted by Pete

Anonymous said...

Agree Msnu. I have Christian friends who feel betrayed by united - which they were, the guy is an asshat who was elected on the colour of his tie on national tv and who sold his soul to the highest bidder. Tamaki is charismatic - watch that man. The next Winston. 

Posted by ruth

Anonymous said...

Waterman: depends how sensible they want to be with their toys. At the moment, our gun lobby doesn't seem nearly as irritating as the US one.

It's the Sensible Sentancing Trust and the hang 'em high brigade which fucks me off. 

Posted by Idiot/Savant